New Dawn  | ok, for me
3 yrs, 246 days ago |
| Mr Wonderful | I would have to see it. And another game you out first and the general out second. .
3 yrs, 248 days ago |
| Mr Wonderful | So if I win this game, and I'm halfway there, I should score well against you two high ranker no matter which went out first, same points for me?
3 yrs, 248 days ago |
| Mr Wonderful | Yes but have we proved that then?
3 yrs, 248 days ago |
| New Dawn | Do you understand what I wrote?
3 yrs, 248 days ago |
| Mr Wonderful | I do not understand any of that!
3 yrs, 250 days ago |
| Mr Wonderful | With more than two players your Score Expected is the average of your Score Expected against all other players. The change in rating is based upon score compared to score expected. Your score in the game is based upon your place, with 1.0 being first place and 0 being last place. So in a five player game first = 1.0, second = .75, third = .5, forth = .25 and last place = 0. The difference is calculated between the score and score expected and then multiplied by 150 to get the change in score. If your score is larger than your score expected then you will gain points, if your score is less than your score expected you will loose points. Your rating changes by: (Actual Score - (Expected Score for (Opponent Rating - Your Rating))) * 150 So if you had a 8500 rating played a player with a 9000 rating and you won the equation would look like this: (9000 - 8500) = 500 rating difference Expected score for 500 = .317 1.0 (your score) - .317 (your expected score) = .683 .683 * 150 = 102 rating points You would have a new rating of 8602 and your opponent would lose 102 points and have a new rating of 8898.
3 yrs, 250 days ago |
| New Dawn | As far as I know: Yes.
3 yrs, 250 days ago |
| Mr Wonderful | Has it always been that way? I think it used to matter in what order they went out.
3 yrs, 250 days ago |
| New Dawn | The content of this discussion is - according to me - that if you are about to win a multi player game it doesn't matter in what order you kill of the other players. YOUR added points are only calculated based upon YOUR result (and the average of your opponents score and regardless of their individual result in this game)
3 yrs, 250 days ago |
| HiT ThaT | Lol deep!!
3 yrs, 250 days ago |
| Mr Wonderful | I don't get it still....
3 yrs, 251 days ago |
| HiT ThaT | I get it now, I will have an “expected” score and I will lose points according to my position, but your saying that it won’t effect the amount of another players points because they have their own expected score
3 yrs, 251 days ago |
| New Dawn | But you will (of course) loose more in this game than you gained in any of the two other games.
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
| New Dawn | That also means that in this game (where you will end as #3) it doesn't matter for you points whether I or Mr W wins the game.
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
| New Dawn | Yes, but thats when you play 1 vs 1. When you play 1 vs many it doesn't matter for the points calculation the order in which the other finishes on.
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
| HiT ThaT | You can look at my game history - if I play sonia - another high ranking general I get much more points .. but when I lose to Enoc2 I lost a ton of points ... if I beat a 9000 or lower I may only get 12 points
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
| HiT ThaT | It’s simple ... if a low rank plays me and wins in 1v1 he will get 150 points - but if I beat him I’ll get 7 points
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
| HiT ThaT | I am not sure, I still had the highest “expected score” that is factored in to the math to award points
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
| New Dawn | Ok. So in game 743699: 1. HiT_That +16 2. New Dawn +9 3. Mr Wonderful -27 In game 743707 1. HiT ThaT +18 2. Mr Wonderful +49 3. New Dawn -69 I think this proves that for the winner it doesn't matter in what order the other players finishes.
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
| New Dawn | I see that you has already quit in this game, HiT ThaT. I don't know why but I want Mr Wonderful to quit the game 743707 after me.
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
| New Dawn | When the other game is finished I will quit the game followed by Mr Wonderful
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
| HiT ThaT | I believe when this game ends it will say I had a much higher expected score
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
| HiT ThaT | Iv never cared about rank but I would live to pass Sonia :) :)
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
| HiT ThaT | Oh my .. why do I get myself in to this :)
3 yrs, 252 days ago |
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3 yrs, 252 days ago |
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3 yrs, 252 days ago |
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3 yrs, 253 days ago |
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3 yrs, 254 days ago |
| New Dawn invited HiT ThaT to this game.
3 yrs, 254 days ago |
| New Dawn | This is the second of two games for testing points calculation.
3 yrs, 254 days ago |
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