Global Combat World War 1

Ookr's Medium Tourney #1 - Game 9


Turn Rate24 Hours
Number of Players6
MapOriginal
Fog of WarFalse
Minimum Army Bonus3
Reverse Attack OrderFalse
Non-Random AttacksFalse
Private Invite OnlyFalse
Tournament#4911

Players

ookr 6787|ookr   1st Place (Score Expected = 0.57, Score = 1, Rating Change = 65)
12345678a 57674|12345678a   2nd Place (Score Expected = 0.65, Score = 0.8, Rating Change = 23)
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the clever   3rd Place (Score Expected = 0.56, Score = 0.6, Rating Change = 6)
New Dawn 34865|New Dawn   4th Place (Score Expected = 0.64, Score = 0.4, Rating Change = -36)
Kluure 71613|Kluure   5th Place (Score Expected = 0.24, Score = 0.2, Rating Change = -6)
klurejr 91908|klurejr   6th Place (Score Expected = 0.34, Score = 0, Rating Change = -51)






Turn 18 Results
Attacks
     Indonesia w/ 58 armies (0 lost) vs Outback w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Tanzania w/ 54 armies (7 lost) vs South Africa w/ 8 armies (8 lost)
     New Guinea w/ 48 armies (0 lost) vs Queensland w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 52 new armies (31 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 25 days ago
Turn 17 Results
Attacks
     Indonesia w/ 50 armies (1 lost) vs New Guinea w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Egypt w/ 14 armies (3 lost) vs Tanzania w/ 3 armies (3 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 44 new armies (25 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 25 days ago
Turn 16 Results
Attacks
     Thailand w/ 67 armies (1 lost) vs Indonesia w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 43 new armies (25 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 25 days ago
Turn 15 Results
Attacks
     China w/ 26 armies (1 lost) vs Thailand w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Algeria w/ 22 armies (7 lost) vs Egypt w/ 8 armies (8 lost)
     Mongolia w/ 20 armies (0 lost) vs Japan w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Ukraine w/ 18 armies (0 lost) vs Kazakhstan w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Iran w/ 18 armies (1 lost) vs India w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 43 new armies (25 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 4 new armies (2 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 25 days ago
Turn 14 Results
Attacks
     Algeria w/ 49 armies (27 lost) vs Egypt w/ 36 armies (28 lost)
     Egypt w/ 7 armies (6 lost) vs Tanzania w/ 8 armies (5 lost)
     Eastern Europe w/ 22 armies (10 lost) vs Middle East w/ 11 armies (11 lost)
     Ukraine w/ 20 armies (1 lost) vs Iran w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Mongolia w/ 17 armies (1 lost) vs China w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Siberia w/ 16 armies (0 lost) vs Ural w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 31 new armies (16 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 6 new armies (2 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 26 days ago
Turn 13 Results
Attacks
     Scandinavia w/ 39 armies (0 lost) vs Ukraine w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Middle East w/ 26 armies (7 lost) vs Egypt w/ 9 armies (9 lost)
     Austria w/ 23 armies (0 lost) vs Eastern Europe w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Pevek w/ 19 armies (1 lost) vs Mongolia w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Cherskiy w/ 18 armies (1 lost) vs Siberia w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Iran w/ 15 armies (4 lost) vs India w/ 4 armies (4 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 29 new armies (16 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 8 new armies (2 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 26 days ago
Turn 12 Results
Attacks
     Iceland w/ 41 armies (1 lost) vs Scandinavia w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Eastern Europe w/ 32 armies (5 lost) vs Middle East w/ 6 armies (6 lost)
     Pevek w/ 20 armies (1 lost) vs Cherskiy w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Kazakhstan w/ 16 armies (0 lost) vs Iran w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 20 new armies (9 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 9 new armies (2 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 26 days ago
Turn 11 Results
Attacks
     Scandinavia w/ 37 armies (4 lost) vs Eastern Europe w/ 7 armies (7 lost)
     Western Europe w/ 6 armies (1 lost) vs Austria w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 19 new armies (9 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 9 new armies (2 from Region Bonuses)
     cugel the clever: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 27 days ago
Turn 10 Results
Attacks
     Ukraine w/ 41 armies (12 lost) vs Scandinavia w/ 16 armies (16 lost)
     Iran w/ 3 armies (0 lost) vs Middle East w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 19 new armies (9 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 9 new armies (2 from Region Bonuses)
     cugel the clever: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     New Dawn: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 28 days ago
cugel the clever forced the turn to run.
5 yrs, 28 days ago
Turn 9 Results
Attacks
     Eastern Europe w/ 31 armies (7 lost) vs Scandinavia w/ 9 armies (9 lost)
     Algeria w/ 13 armies (7 lost) vs Western Europe w/ 12 armies (9 lost)
     Iceland w/ 13 armies (13 lost) vs Scandinavia w/ 24 armies (8 lost)
     United Kingdom w/ 6 armies (2 lost) vs Western Europe w/ 3 armies (3 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 19 new armies (9 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 8 new armies (2 from Region Bonuses)
     cugel the clever: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     New Dawn: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 29 days ago
Turn 8 Results
Attacks
     Alaska w/ 34 armies (8 lost) vs Pevek w/ 9 armies (9 lost)
     Greenland w/ 21 armies (7 lost) vs Iceland w/ 8 armies (8 lost)
     Siberia w/ 7 armies (0 lost) vs Cherskiy w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Kazakhstan w/ 2 armies (1 lost) vs Ukraine w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 18 new armies (9 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 8 new armies (2 from Region Bonuses)
     cugel the clever: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     New Dawn: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 30 days ago
Turn 7 Results
Attacks
     Alberta w/ 14 armies (1 lost) vs Alaska w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Algeria w/ 11 armies (1 lost) vs Congo w/ 5 armies (5 lost)
     United Kingdom w/ 9 armies (3 lost) vs Western Europe w/ 4 armies (3 lost)
     Ural w/ 8 armies (0 lost) vs Siberia w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Austria w/ 7 armies (1 lost) vs Western Europe w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 17 new armies (9 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 7 new armies (2 from Region Bonuses)
     cugel the clever: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     New Dawn: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 30 days ago
Turn 6 Results
Attacks
     Alberta w/ 19 armies (10 lost) vs Alaska w/ 14 armies (13 lost)
     Kazakhstan w/ 12 armies (3 lost) vs Ural w/ 5 armies (5 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 10 new armies (3 from Region Bonuses)
     Kluure: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 7 new armies (2 from Region Bonuses)
     cugel the clever: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     New Dawn: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 30 days ago
Turn 5 Results
Attacks
     Mexico w/ 16 armies (3 lost) vs East United States w/ 5 armies (5 lost)
     West United States w/ 15 armies (5 lost) vs Alberta w/ 7 armies (7 lost)
     New Guinea w/ 12 armies (0 lost) vs Outback w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Ontario w/ 9 armies (1 lost) vs Quebec w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Thailand w/ 8 armies (1 lost) vs Kazakhstan w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Austria w/ 3 armies (2 lost) vs Western Europe w/ 2 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 10 new armies (3 from Region Bonuses)
     Kluure: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 6 new armies (2 from Region Bonuses)
     cugel the clever: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     New Dawn: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 30 days ago
cugel the clever forced the turn to run.
5 yrs, 30 days ago
TimmyF 42208|TimmyF"first complaint". False.
5 yrs, 31 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureThat said I am done with this conversation. ookr is on track to pull a win with 123456789a and new dawn fighting for second... I will probably be out in a round or two.
5 yrs, 31 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureConsidering this is the lsoers bracket already, I don't really care that you are suiciding on me to try and prove a point.... I still disagree with you that it is cheating. Cheating would be if I entered with tourney with 2 accounts and decided to play them both to my own advantage. As mentioned before i will refrain from entering more than one account into the ookr tourny since it only needs 16 active players to start. I will not stop doing it on the tourneys that require 34+ players to start. Back 10+ years ago this was not an issue because this site was active and had tons of players. These days the site is dead and really only made up of a core group of about 15-20 people who are active.
5 yrs, 31 days ago
Turn 4 Results
Attacks
     Queensland w/ 15 armies (2 lost) vs New Guinea w/ 5 armies (5 lost)
     West United States w/ 11 armies (1 lost) vs Ontario w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     China w/ 6 armies (1 lost) vs Thailand w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Indonesia w/ 2 armies (1 lost) vs Outback w/ 1 armies (0 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 9 new armies (3 from Region Bonuses)
     Kluure: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 4 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     cugel the clever: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     New Dawn: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 31 days ago
Kluure forced the turn to run.
5 yrs, 31 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverso it is your useage of a multi which has directed the course of this game
5 yrs, 32 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverIf not for punishing you for cheating, I would have placed in Europe to battle new dawn. It was my best positioning. So I was in no position to stop ookr. 123's placement in aus was a reasonable move given his inital draw. If this were a normal game with an active and independent blue player, he is the one who would have been the prime threat to slow down or stop ookr.
5 yrs, 32 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverif people design a game, like you have done in the past, specifically as a multi game; then of course it's ok to play it. that doesn't give you the moral or ethical right to enter your multies into open tournaments which are not specifically created as multi games.
5 yrs, 32 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverI am not going to play this game normally given your cheating. You brought this on yourself.
5 yrs, 32 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureFor all your griping Cugel - you are just sitting there in North America doing nothing to slow down ookr....
5 yrs, 32 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureAlso, 123456789a has a second account for some private specialty team tourneys we ran a long time ago, so no I am not the only one to multi, I am just the only one to be openly frank about it.
5 yrs, 32 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureI would like to point out that ookr has his advantage because you and 123456789a decided to gang up on me in Australia to "punish" me.... I do not stand alone for ookr taking the lead here....
5 yrs, 32 days ago
Vkings_ 18192|Vkings_Anyway, just me 2 cents. Enjoy your games and thanks for below, i like to see what others are thinking
5 yrs, 32 days ago
Vkings_ 18192|Vkings_Placing armies adds to the impact and is unwelcome. I am like Cugel that i do not like 2 or 3 player games, but am trying to learn to enjoy them. I actually at times enjoy these games where someone is inactive as it makes me think of new ways to play. In this game the place and drop method clearly helped Ookr more than not placing and quiting. At least it was annouced though.
5 yrs, 32 days ago
Vkings_ 18192|Vkings_Not my game, but i do have opnions on the subject. I don't like teams, but as long as they are annouceed i can deal with them. What Kluure is doing i am not a a dan of, but i can work with it. He always annouces it. I will say i agree that we should NOT place armies though before quiting an account
5 yrs, 32 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverI'm not blaming ookr... i would have done the same thing as he's doing now given the protection from africa and pevek, but the point is that a "real" independent player controlling blue would have created a fairer and better game.
5 yrs, 32 days ago
ookr 6787|ookrI'm not complaining about that :-D
5 yrs, 32 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverLOL he even helped ookr by dumping in pevek to protect that flank while ookr expands.
5 yrs, 32 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverIn this game; if Kluurejr had been a real player, not a multi, he would have won africa by now and it would be a competitive game. But as it is now, ookr is going to win easily because all of the dead stacks of armies in africa give him a protective wall on that flank and will allow him to get win NA easily without worrying about his flank. So his argument about not affecting the game because of his multi is nonsense... just by existing and placing dead armies, he is helping some players and hurting others.
5 yrs, 32 days ago
Turn 3 Results
Attacks
     Indonesia w/ 34 armies (18 lost) vs Queensland w/ 19 armies (19 lost)
     Ontario w/ 11 armies (4 lost) vs Alberta w/ 5 armies (5 lost)
     Eastern Europe w/ 10 armies (6 lost) vs Austria w/ 8 armies (6 lost)
     Columbia w/ 8 armies (1 lost) vs Mexico w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Ural w/ 8 armies (4 lost) vs Kazakhstan w/ 8 armies (5 lost)
     Japan w/ 8 armies (1 lost) vs China w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Austria w/ 1 armies (1 lost) vs Western Europe w/ 3 armies (1 lost)
     Kazakhstan w/ 2 armies (1 lost) vs Iran w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Outback w/ 6 armies (1 lost) vs New Guinea w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Northern Territories w/ 4 armies (1 lost) vs Greenland w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 8 new armies (3 from Region Bonuses)
     Kluure: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 4 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     cugel the clever: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     New Dawn: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 32 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverI don't like 2-player or 3-player games. I don't create them or join them. I don't even like 4-player games that much but join them because there are so many 4-player tournaments. I like 5-8 player games with no teaming. But if more and more people start doing Kluure's strategy, most tournaments will devolve into 2,3,4-player games because of all the "neutral" players who will increasingly appear. In 2-player tournaments, there will even be lots of cases where a whole game consists of a pair of multies, in which case that player gets a free pass to the next round. Kluure says he doesn't enter 2-player games, but what about people who do enter them and use his strategy of seeding the torunament with multies?
5 yrs, 32 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverNew Dawn... as for your argument..... Kluure is the only person I know about who is doing this strategy of purposely entering multies in the tournament. I don't find there's any big problem with how quickly the tournaments are progressing. As 123 pointed out, what if everybody started creating multiple accounts and entered many of them in every tournament? We would get to the point where literally most of the players in a tournament game are multies. The honest players would quit their "junior" accounts out of the game and stack their armies, so you would constantly get ridiculous scenarios where 4-player tournaments became 2-player, 6-player tournaments became 2 or 3 player, with each active player surrounded by walls of "neutral" players with stacked armies. Would you like this? I know I wouldn't. I, and I bet many others would stop playing, and this would further accelerate the death of this game site.
5 yrs, 32 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverThat logic can be used against you. What about a player who starts next to a bunch of your dead accounts and suddenly has a wall of armies to fight through to gain a continent? Just because a player is next to a "live" player, doesn't mean that that live player will automatically stack armies there... they might be stacking armies elsewhere. The point is, that by stacking armies, you are influencing the game and, even if you do it "impartially", you are artifically hurting some players more than others. If you insist on entering with these multi players, then the least you can do is immediately quit the JR player without placing armies. That will have the most minimal impact on the game.
5 yrs, 32 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureMy reasoning for placing the extra armies instead of just quiting without placement is to make it as fair as possible to all the players. It could be unfair to some in the first few rounds of the game if they started next to a Neutral or dead account that only had 5 armies per territory with ZERO option to add more, vs players who start next to other players who might dump a bunch of armies down and continue to re-inforce them. Have any of you ever played Origianl RISK in a 2-player scenario?
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Turn 2 Results
Attacks
     New Guinea w/ 32 armies (0 lost) vs Indonesia w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Brazil w/ 20 armies (3 lost) vs Peru w/ 5 armies (5 lost)
     Thailand w/ 14 armies (6 lost) vs Kazakhstan w/ 7 armies (7 lost)
     Iran w/ 12 armies (4 lost) vs Ukraine w/ 5 armies (5 lost)
     East United States w/ 4 armies (4 lost) vs Ontario w/ 13 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 7 new armies (3 from Region Bonuses)
     Kluure: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     cugel the clever: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     New Dawn: 4 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 33 days ago
ookr 6787|ookrI personally don't like multiplayers and teams, but as people keep doing it I choose to stop giving a shit for my own mental sanity. I don't get people cheating in GC as there is nothing to win and you cannot even see the player ranking anymore but if they are happy cheating, I chose to ignore that. Life is not fair and the same can be said about GC
5 yrs, 33 days ago
New Dawn 34865|New DawnWow, lot's of discussion in a game in the first 24 hours. I made my move more or less when the game started and now all of this discussion has taken place. This thing with kluure's multiple accounts have been discussed before - but mostly in the sense of what he should do with his second account than if it's right or not to have multiple accounts. I'm siding slightly with kluure in the issue with multiple accounts. Many tournaments would never start if there were no dead - or in this case multiple - accounts. Therefore I'm positive to kluure having more than one account. I've been tempted myself to create more than one account and join tournaments to get them moving but I haven't gotten to that stage yet. Best would be if as many active players as possible joined as many tournaments as possible - and teamed against the teamers. Multiple accounts - like kluure's - are also a help when meeting teaming players like Jaydog et al. In those situations I think kluure should keep his aliases alive and fight the teaming players. With regards to the issue with what to do with the armies when kluure quits one of his players i think he should behave similar to a dead account, i.e. leave the armies unplaced but, different from the dead accounts, quit and state it in the comments.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureI wholeheartedly disagree with your line of reasoning. I don't like or play 2-player tournaments. I am going to make this one concession for you with the ookr tourny, but not the others.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverThere are two problems with your logic. 1.... the tournaments are created for a specific number of players; 2,4,6,8. When you join a game with a multi abd then quit one of them after 1 turn, you immediately screw up one ofvthe most basic conditions of the game which is the number of players. For example, I di not like 2 or 3 pkyer games. But if you join a 4player tournament with a multi and then quit one of them, you've screwed the game for the other players. Or if you join a 2 player tournament with a multi and are drawn against your multi in a game, then you get a free pass to the next round. 2..... you claim that you "don't play" the JR account. But you do... as soon as you assign armies to that account, you are "playing" that account and advantaging some playets and disadvantagingnothers. If you insist on continuing this dishonorable habit, then you should at least quit your JR account without placing its armies.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureIf I was playing both accounts and making attack moves, then you could call me a cheater, but I don't do that unless I am up against Timmy, and he knows why. haha
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureOr worse someone starts playing, makes some moves and upsets the balance of the game and then stops coming back to the site....
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureI feel it is worse when a player joins a game/tournament and then stops coming to the website. Then you start a game with a non-playing account that has the potential to come live if the person comes back.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureYou are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I do not feel what I am doing is cheating. All it does in the long run is bring in a "neutral" player, similar to if you have ever played old school RISK with 2-players and the Neutral player that gains no armies and makes not attacks.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureI will do this for you since you are so passionate about it. For the ookr's Tourny I will only join with Kluure since there are only 16 slots to fill the tournament will actually fill up with more of the regulars and less of the fly by night accounts that quickly go dead. When it takes 34 - 40 people to start a tourny, it can take months for them to get started. The entire reason i created the second account and named it to be super close to my main was to help get the tournemants started faster.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverI'm not teaming, I'm suiciding on a multi cheater. Have a nice day :)
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureIf you feel the need to team up against me go ahead. you will quickly become known as a teaming cheater like Timmy and his crew.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureCugel - No Thanks. I am going to continue playing the way I have for the last 6 years. It has worked just fine.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Turn 1 Results
Attacks
     Argentina w/ 29 armies (4 lost) vs Brazil w/ 5 armies (5 lost)
     China w/ 29 armies (8 lost) vs Thailand w/ 10 armies (10 lost)
     Outback w/ 14 armies (9 lost) vs Queensland w/ 9 armies (9 lost)
     Kazakhstan w/ 11 armies (11 lost) vs Thailand w/ 21 armies (6 lost)
     Iran w/ 9 armies (4 lost) vs India w/ 8 armies (4 lost)
     Ural w/ 9 armies (1 lost) vs China w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Cherskiy w/ 9 armies (0 lost) vs Siberia w/ 1 armies (1 lost)
     Austria w/ 4 armies (3 lost) vs Western Europe w/ 5 armies (2 lost)
     Mongolia w/ 4 armies (4 lost) vs China w/ 8 armies (1 lost)
Army Bonuses
     ookr: 4 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     Kluure: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     12345678a: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     cugel the clever: 3 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
     New Dawn: 4 new armies (0 from Region Bonuses)
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverQuit both your accounts in this game and don't multi enter tournaments again. If you do, accept that you need to quit both accounts if you're ever drawn against yourself.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverI am not wasting my time studying your completed games. Playing two accounts is not right. If everybody did it, then games would be chaotic with half or more of the players quiting every game at the start. Thete is no reason why you should have special dispensation.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureI have been playing this way for a few years now and this is the first complaint I have gotten about my methods. I am not picking and choosing which of my accounts stays based on starting armies. Kluure is my main and always stays, Jr is my second and trogdor my third, I always quit out my third no matter who it is with and kluure always stays. Go back and look at any of the games where I have them. I am not going to back down on this.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverI'm not hitting end turn until the turn timer runs out. This will give him time to do the honorable thing.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverHe should quit both his accounts from this game without dropping armies. Just go away.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverAlso, maybe there are no "official" rules against multies, surely he is not so stupid as to not understand that it's bad sportsmanship and dishonorable to play with multies. Also, he's wrong about the site owner not answering.... this tournament named after ookr is proof that the owner does listen to respected players with good ideas. I also have a tournament named after me because the owner listened to me. Maybe the owner doesn't answer Kluure because he has no good ideas?
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverKluure is wrong on several of his points.... there are enough active players around here to keep the tournaments going. Also, if he thinks it's okay to enter multiple accounts, why can't everybody else enter 3,4,5 accounts into the tournaments like 123 said.... the answer is that it's not right to enter any multies at all because it distorts the games. If he wants to enter multies, he should at least not drop his extra armies.... thats the same as playing an extra account. If he's honest about playing fair, he should just quit the game with the extra multi.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverThis is what Kluure private-messaged to me...... If I did not enter mutlis into the tournaments we would never have tournaments.... this site is mostly dead these days.... I disagree with your assesment. Kluure is my main, klurejr is my second and trog my third. I always defer to my "higher" ranked account. I don't choose to play with my lower account when they are matched up. You might disagree with me, but this site has no official rules about it and the site owners don't even respond to the contact us page. I have tried multiple times to contact them with no results.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
12345678a 57674|12345678aI'm sorry. I should have side THREE accounts in one tournament.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
12345678a 57674|12345678aI agree with cugel. Why drop any armies at all? Just quit since you should never have had two accounts in one tournament to start with.
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverOokr, 123, newdawn.... what do you say? Kluure is a multi. He picked the better of the two positions to play and dropping all those armies means he's playing both accounts. He should suffer the fate of all multies. What do you say we all ally against his accounts until he's dead andvthen play against each other?
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverThat's bullshit... why are you droppong any armies at all? Jr should simply quit
5 yrs, 33 days ago
klurejr 91908|klurejr4 dropped in Australia, Kamchatca, Nethelands and Egypt. The rest got 3 armies dropped
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Kluure 71613|KluureJR will get even army distribution
5 yrs, 33 days ago
Kluure 71613|KluureKluure is my main, I will be droppiung out JR
5 yrs, 33 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverAnd you should announce this long before the first move timer expires.
5 yrs, 34 days ago
cugel the clever 35738|cugel the cleverKluure.... don't you understand that it's unethical to enter multiple accounts into tournaments? It's not good enough to simply quit one of your multies from the game because it's giving you a choice of two different starting positions and obviously youll choose the one that's advantageous to you. Nobody else has that advantage in the game. If you are being honest and ethical, you would quit all of your multies from the game. If you don't have the integrity to do that, then you should quit one of your multies without placing it's reserves. You should also do a poll of the other players and let them select which of your multies to quit.
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